?

Log in

No account? Create an account

Previous Entry | Next Entry

On Immigration

"You venture to call Ferdinand a wise ruler — he who has impoverished his own country and enriched mine!" - Bayezid II
Bayezid II - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

When Spain expelled its Jewish population, the Ottoman Empire took them in.   This helped give the Ottomans another 400 years and started the decline of Spain as a world power almost before it started its rise.  Now Germany is playing the role of the Ottomans while Syria plays the role of Spain.

Recent Posts from This Journal

  • Lalla - To learn the scriptures is easy

    To learn the scriptures is easy by Lalla English version by Coleman Barks Original Language Kashmiri To learn the scriptures is easy, to live…

  • No One Here But Him

    No One Here but Him by Mevlana Jelaluddin Rumi English version by Andrew Harvey Watching my hand; He is moving it. Hearing my voice; He is…

  • A Selection From Rum, "translated" by Barks

    There is some kiss we want with our whole lives, the touch of Spirit on the body. Seawater begs the pearl to break its shell. And the lily, how…

Comments

( 4 comments — Leave a comment )
pondhopper
Sep. 11th, 2015 05:25 pm (UTC)
Hmmm...it is far more complicated than that as regards Spain historically and we cannot really compare two such different times in history.
bobby1933
Sep. 11th, 2015 05:52 pm (UTC)
I'm sure you are right.
That was just off the top of my head.

But some descendants of former immigrants
Seem to lose all perspective
when this year's immigrants come along.
pondhopper
Sep. 11th, 2015 07:04 pm (UTC)
And what we are seeing at present is not immigration but the fleeing from civil and religious war, destruction and a certain death. These are refugees, not immigrants, a very different situation.
It is horrifying.


Edited at 2015-09-11 07:08 pm (UTC)
bobby1933
Sep. 11th, 2015 09:37 pm (UTC)
Of course it is horrifying and i would say nothing to dismiss that horror.

But there are almost always "pull" and "push" factors when people leave, even if they have total freedom or if they are under lethal force. Some Syrians are choosing to stay in Syria. Also, discarded passports and identification are scattered about suggesting that people think they might do better as "undocumented" Syrians than as Iraqis, Afghanis, or Pakistanis.

Many of the immigrants to the U.s. in the 19th and early 20th Century (Irish, Eastern European Jews) would be hard to distinguish from rejugees -- were in fact refugees.
( 4 comments — Leave a comment )

Profile

bobby1933
bobby1933

Latest Month

August 2019
S M T W T F S
    123
45678910
11121314151617
18192021222324
25262728293031

Tags

Page Summary

Powered by LiveJournal.com
Designed by Tiffany Chow